129510...And here is another 92 year old fart who remembers the war clearly...Sydney Harbor and the Jap mini sub which torpedoed the "Kuttabel"with 21 sailors on board!.
We were in the middle of it....not the ship, but on the Harbour side.It is still as clear as day.
The memories are not good.
Defence people who lived through that must have nightmares much worse than mine
I stand with our military too, Ralph. Not the uniformed, feminised desk warmers in Canberra, but the real soldiers, who hear the sound of enemy fire and move towards it, not run away and hide under the desk in a bureaucratic bunker. The problem is that the Tweedledee/Tweedledum uniparty has embraced the representation of woke identity politics, not the people of Australia. They mistake Canberra for the real world, but their dose of true reality is coming. Let's go Pauline!
Well said Ralph and well done putting the video together. So timely with Anzac Day fast approaching. I’ll be posting it on Anzac Day. I hope many others do the same. Lest We Forget. 🇦🇺 🙏 ❤️
The few remaining who endured those times of conflict generally will not forget.
But when 80% have never experienced what is necessary to 'buy peace' then there is nothing to "forget".
Freedom earned by the now minority is squandered as it has no value. Freedom cost nothing ... it was just 'there' - and so that majority voted for promises and illusions fed to them by party loyal hacks .... and here we are.
Free speech now effectively illegal.
Self defence made impossible by the laws created by those we elected.
Insidious encroachment of socialism into the fabric of society.
Pacifist social engineering on a grand scale.
One of the resource richest nations on the planet more concerned to comply with the so called "United" Nations agendas and other Globalist adventures.
A nation obsessed with Green and woke UN commitments that even the Dept of Energy clearly states to this day that Net Zero is the overarching principle - NOT our energy and self sufficiency needs
I could go on, suffice to say, the only thing that will change this is a complete demolition of the entire system of governance, of laws, of responsibilities and replacing with one that is truly democratic (eg switzerland - but not the sole model) and one where citizens have actual rights that if challenged comes with the most severe of penalties to the challenger - and representatives who are personally accountable for the decisions they / their party makes.
Peter, thank you for your reply to my short comment. I agree with you wholeheartedly with everything you said. I've just turned 75 and the Australia of old has been totally eroded by the woke leftist agenda. My genuine concern is for my children, grandchildren and my two small great grandchildren.
Have to agree as well. I'm 72 and the Australia of the sixties and seventies has gone forever. They were the good times. Too many bureaucrats and silly laws that just cause more division in our society. We need freeing up and yes, government is totally broken. Trying to fix a broken system with the broken system is not going to work. Our forefathers would be turning in their graves to see the Australia of today. This is a very sad time in our history. We have been taken over by corporations and the likes of the WHO and the WEF and Billy Boy Gates and all their cronies.
BULLSHIT. Don't give me that bullshit that our supposed freedoms are owed to some country hick with a big dick holding a gun. ALL militaries are like the GERMANS who fought for Hitler, in fact the US. military ARE the GERMANS
In an obtuse way, some of your view is justified, in fact Mjr Smedley Butler in 1933 wrote and presented a short speech "War Is a Racket". Nothing has changed.
However: When a nation is being invaded (eg Japs in WW2) or an entire region to be dominated by extreme force (Germans in WW2), or even the more subtle long term approach of islam to dominate the globe (ref their workshop manuals) - then:
1) Are those forces to be resisted or does one 'bend over and drop pants'?
2) If to be resisted: How and by whom?
3) What would YOU do?
“We sleep peacefully in our beds at night, only because rough men stand ready to do violence on our behalf.” - George Orwell
Interestingly, Mitsuo Fuchida the Japanese pilot who led the attack on Pearl Harbor and radioed TORA! TORA! TORA! became a Christian and immigrated to America.
OK, fair enough. My only point is that every country has a military to protect themselves from the other guy's military, so fair enough it's an ugly hard job, but in all fairness this has more to do with human nature and self-preservation than some selfless holy cause.
1) The whole of nature on this planet - of which humans are part - has some form of self defence. In fact the whole of life on this planet exists because of death. Just look at most life forms that have teeth and a digestive system - they are there due to the need to kill and eat some other life ... but I digress.
2) Humans on the other hand have the notion that human predators can be controlled by creating laws and enforcement mechanisms, then applying them to the law abiding - not the thug/predator. Then wonder why the bad and the mad do not become good - so in turn apply more of the same until we are all enslaved - too dumbed down and compliant to notice.
3) That's human nature and self-preservation! "Some Holy Cause" - just look at religions - particularly Islam and in times long past, the Crusades and today - across a board of subjects where Propaganda, Fear and Force are the most powerful tools for governments to apply to 'the masses' to have them do their dirtywork.
4) So when 'a soldier' is directed to act in an environment created by any of the above, and for whatever political reason or alliance and bad things happen in those environments - because they WILL - then who is actually responsible?
5) Here's the answer: The Yamashita Standard which states that:
'The highest ranking officer is accountable for, and should be prosecuted and convicted of the crimes of every officer and soldier under his command, even if he/she is unaware of that the crime, or was aware and actually gave orders to stop it. Ignorance of the actions of his/her subordinates and failed attempts to stop them are not a defence.
6) Did you notice the last sentence? So the BIG question is: Are those actually responsible using soldiers as scapegoats?
Might I suggest more mature comments from you in the future? Learning will help.
Hello Peter. The closest thing I could find in Australia's Law of Armed Conflict (LOAC) manual to The Yamashita Principle was in Chapter 13.42---"The fact that a subordinate was ordered to do an act, or make an omission, which was illegal does not, of itself, absolve the subordinate from criminal responsibility. "
I feel the top brass who sent BRS in to Afghanistan are hiding something, and BRS was a distraction. Perhaps collusion with the CIA and DOD at that time? If we 'follow the money' we could ask what was Afghanistan notorious for growing there at the time? Did our guys find something ...?
You can suggest whatever you want, your juxtaposition of animals killing each other to survive and humans fighting each other in war puts us on the same level as animals. God says this is because of Satan's influence on nature, not the way he intended it to be. You then justify humans behaving like animals by poo pooing religion and denying the soul. You also slipped in feminist think by wanting to FRAME/CONVICT the commander for the faults of his soldiers even if he had no knowledge of them. The Yamashita standard is rightfully debated as he claimed to have lost communication with his troops. I also take issue with the absurd 'He/she reference to military command structure since w0e-MEN are not required to be registered for the draft and should have NO place in the military, and certainly NOT in the command structure since they are not even held as accountable as adults. I didn't say I 'blame' the troops, I said I do NOT support them IF they attack another country. Again, I did NOT say I 'blame' them, I said I do NOT support bullies who attack other countries. Even if they are doing what they are told. I don't blame them for not having a choice. BUT I don't support them in their efforts is what I said.
Actually, most 'Germans' fought to survive( as other nations did, for 2 Major wars. Also, in the WW2, Mssr Hitler, was 'installed' by Zionist & Industrialists, to lead the German population [especially the robust breeding Stock] into annihilation - finishing off, what the WW1 failed to do - really just the same conflict! Zionist & Nazi Pacts[Including forced 'Jew Control' back to Palestine 1933/34 - Who knew!] Who has the where with all, to stand against the 'State', when that 'State' has the enforceable muscle to conscrpt or imprison the resistors?
'The U.S. military are The Germans' - Actually, post WW2, via Operation Paperclip & Overcast, The actual 'Nazi's' DID contribute to U.S. Systems of Command, all metric hard & soft Science, spying & intelligence services. Even NATO used upper echelon 3rd Reich commanders & operational constructs from Nazi doctrine - Operation Gladio.
For those thinking that ALL 'Nazi's' are the bad guys, & 'we' the good guys, hasn't studied 'Our' offences against the same 'Bad' guys = We ARE the same- generally destructive though - at a much greater rate - During and Post conflict (Folks remember WW2 Battle of the Bulge, & a massacre of U.S. servicemen at Malmedy [84 odd G.Is] by Waffenn SS unit. NO ONE remembers the roadside murder of unarmed German troops - Especially Waffen SS in the 10's of Thousands - Zero charge or trials!. One could extend this to the Million + Dead of captured broad spectrum German POWs, 'Name changed' to DEFs by Eisenhower, to render near Zero provisions of any shelter, sustanance, hydration or Medical supply. Beatings & murder by G.Is an extra bonus from THE 'Liberators of Europe'. RhinesRheinwiesenlagers as some locales. I think these wretches know Exactly the meaning of 'Freedom'!) 'Bad/Good', is Just another illusion for the Convenient mob to argue over! The 'Winners'who write/edit History, conveniently omit their own Sins En-masse against international conventions, as clearly shown still, in current Mid-Eastern & eastern euro conflicts. Decimation of localised breeding stocks, STILL, appears to be a strategic objective for the 'Replacement settlers'.
Last; 'Defence' forces, at least in Western & Israeli forces, appear to be mis branded, seeing as most of their Operations appear to be 'Offence'!
$300Million, 10Years to make 1 arrest. Political Deflection and Smokescreen is suggested by those numbers. They were ordered to go in politically and to do specific jobs. The authorising and rules of engagement would have been made and set by the fearless political leaders in Canberra. A fall guy is needed to take the heat off the relevant pollies.
The whole show is a stage show - a show by righteous politicians to demonstrate to 'the world' just how squeaky clean and morally pure is Straya. And 'the world' doesn't care one iota.
The side benefit of course - perhaps the real reason - is an issue pumped up to justify bureaucracies squandering squillions and thus be kept in a job.
And all the while, those who actually sent troops to do their politically motivated dirtywork have shed all responsibility to a few chosen scapegoats - the ones they sent to do it all.
A word comes to mind and that is: TRAITORS!
Clearly Straya has forests of traitors - most being indifferent bureaucrats such as the AFP, and where the rest have been voted into positions to abuse not only military personnel, but ALL Australians on a raft of serious issues.
No small wonder Pauline and crew are rating well - but when election time happens along, the stupid majority will yet again vote FOR more of the same.
GREAT credit to Ralph, but methinks you are an island in the wrong pond. Your capacity is needed where you can be most effective, and under Clive that can't happen
Form earlier reports into this witch hunt……those Afghanie “witnesses”, were paid to give their testimony, which they gave via video link? What!???? Who in their right mind would believe one word they had to say? One of the main tenets of Islam is Taqiyyah. Meaning you can lie and deceive to get what you want, especially to the kuffer, the non believer. Three ADF soldiers were killed by Afghani members pretending to be assistants or translators before BRS and his platoon were sent out to find those responsible. Our soldiers discovered how deceitful these people are during the second world war……why would anything change? If you advertise and pay good money you will always find “witnesses” for your cause. Remember all the witnesses that had a story to tell about Cardinal Pell after the advertisement went out, but also remember the highest court in this land found him not guilty. This country sure has a major problem with tall poppies don't we?
Bloody despicable behaviour by our sock-puppet polity government under the practitioner of Guile Deceit and dissemblance whom I liken to “The Weasel” and bureaucrat thuggery in canberra
We need them now more than ever to protect and defend Australia and Australians from within our country.
Let’s get the ball rolling and arrest and charge each and every politician who is working for unelected officials and working on destroying Australia. Arrest. Charge and lock them up starting from the top.
Especially the head of defence whom offered to forcibly jab all Australians and by that he showed his true colours which are definitely against the constitution and the Australian people
He responded to the aftermath of three of his fellow soldiers being murdered by an Afghani insurgent who was meant to be a friendly , so why is that not being mentioned .
We need to support our military and not judge them by civilian, peacetime standards.
Absolutely.
If peace is the goal, then don't get involved in war.
When war is imposed - peace has as much relevance as to poetry in a gunfight.
(I say that from experiences)
Who is driving this? They need to be exposed. Who gave the ok to spend $300 million? These questions need to be answered.
129510...And here is another 92 year old fart who remembers the war clearly...Sydney Harbor and the Jap mini sub which torpedoed the "Kuttabel"with 21 sailors on board!.
We were in the middle of it....not the ship, but on the Harbour side.It is still as clear as day.
The memories are not good.
Defence people who lived through that must have nightmares much worse than mine
I stand with our military too, Ralph. Not the uniformed, feminised desk warmers in Canberra, but the real soldiers, who hear the sound of enemy fire and move towards it, not run away and hide under the desk in a bureaucratic bunker. The problem is that the Tweedledee/Tweedledum uniparty has embraced the representation of woke identity politics, not the people of Australia. They mistake Canberra for the real world, but their dose of true reality is coming. Let's go Pauline!
Well said Ralph and well done putting the video together. So timely with Anzac Day fast approaching. I’ll be posting it on Anzac Day. I hope many others do the same. Lest We Forget. 🇦🇺 🙏 ❤️
"Lest We Forget" - Admirable - BUT
The few remaining who endured those times of conflict generally will not forget.
But when 80% have never experienced what is necessary to 'buy peace' then there is nothing to "forget".
Freedom earned by the now minority is squandered as it has no value. Freedom cost nothing ... it was just 'there' - and so that majority voted for promises and illusions fed to them by party loyal hacks .... and here we are.
Free speech now effectively illegal.
Self defence made impossible by the laws created by those we elected.
Insidious encroachment of socialism into the fabric of society.
Pacifist social engineering on a grand scale.
One of the resource richest nations on the planet more concerned to comply with the so called "United" Nations agendas and other Globalist adventures.
A nation obsessed with Green and woke UN commitments that even the Dept of Energy clearly states to this day that Net Zero is the overarching principle - NOT our energy and self sufficiency needs
I could go on, suffice to say, the only thing that will change this is a complete demolition of the entire system of governance, of laws, of responsibilities and replacing with one that is truly democratic (eg switzerland - but not the sole model) and one where citizens have actual rights that if challenged comes with the most severe of penalties to the challenger - and representatives who are personally accountable for the decisions they / their party makes.
I'll leave it there.
Peter, thank you for your reply to my short comment. I agree with you wholeheartedly with everything you said. I've just turned 75 and the Australia of old has been totally eroded by the woke leftist agenda. My genuine concern is for my children, grandchildren and my two small great grandchildren.
Well - we are the same age! Alert "old Farts"! Nuffink wrong with that!
Haha absolutely nuffink wrong wiv it 😂
Have to agree as well. I'm 72 and the Australia of the sixties and seventies has gone forever. They were the good times. Too many bureaucrats and silly laws that just cause more division in our society. We need freeing up and yes, government is totally broken. Trying to fix a broken system with the broken system is not going to work. Our forefathers would be turning in their graves to see the Australia of today. This is a very sad time in our history. We have been taken over by corporations and the likes of the WHO and the WEF and Billy Boy Gates and all their cronies.
GAWD! - Another "Old Fart"
We comment because we experienced - we saw - we remember.
Our opinions have weight because we lived it. We actually enjoyed the responsibility of freedom, and freedom itself.
Am pretty sure both Jan and Ian would agree with me that: I pity those who think they enjoy freedom. They have no idea what freedom actually is.
BULLSHIT. Don't give me that bullshit that our supposed freedoms are owed to some country hick with a big dick holding a gun. ALL militaries are like the GERMANS who fought for Hitler, in fact the US. military ARE the GERMANS
Hmmm!
In an obtuse way, some of your view is justified, in fact Mjr Smedley Butler in 1933 wrote and presented a short speech "War Is a Racket". Nothing has changed.
However: When a nation is being invaded (eg Japs in WW2) or an entire region to be dominated by extreme force (Germans in WW2), or even the more subtle long term approach of islam to dominate the globe (ref their workshop manuals) - then:
1) Are those forces to be resisted or does one 'bend over and drop pants'?
2) If to be resisted: How and by whom?
3) What would YOU do?
“We sleep peacefully in our beds at night, only because rough men stand ready to do violence on our behalf.” - George Orwell
Interestingly, Mitsuo Fuchida the Japanese pilot who led the attack on Pearl Harbor and radioed TORA! TORA! TORA! became a Christian and immigrated to America.
OK, fair enough. My only point is that every country has a military to protect themselves from the other guy's military, so fair enough it's an ugly hard job, but in all fairness this has more to do with human nature and self-preservation than some selfless holy cause.
1) The whole of nature on this planet - of which humans are part - has some form of self defence. In fact the whole of life on this planet exists because of death. Just look at most life forms that have teeth and a digestive system - they are there due to the need to kill and eat some other life ... but I digress.
2) Humans on the other hand have the notion that human predators can be controlled by creating laws and enforcement mechanisms, then applying them to the law abiding - not the thug/predator. Then wonder why the bad and the mad do not become good - so in turn apply more of the same until we are all enslaved - too dumbed down and compliant to notice.
3) That's human nature and self-preservation! "Some Holy Cause" - just look at religions - particularly Islam and in times long past, the Crusades and today - across a board of subjects where Propaganda, Fear and Force are the most powerful tools for governments to apply to 'the masses' to have them do their dirtywork.
4) So when 'a soldier' is directed to act in an environment created by any of the above, and for whatever political reason or alliance and bad things happen in those environments - because they WILL - then who is actually responsible?
5) Here's the answer: The Yamashita Standard which states that:
'The highest ranking officer is accountable for, and should be prosecuted and convicted of the crimes of every officer and soldier under his command, even if he/she is unaware of that the crime, or was aware and actually gave orders to stop it. Ignorance of the actions of his/her subordinates and failed attempts to stop them are not a defence.
6) Did you notice the last sentence? So the BIG question is: Are those actually responsible using soldiers as scapegoats?
Might I suggest more mature comments from you in the future? Learning will help.
Hello Peter. The closest thing I could find in Australia's Law of Armed Conflict (LOAC) manual to The Yamashita Principle was in Chapter 13.42---"The fact that a subordinate was ordered to do an act, or make an omission, which was illegal does not, of itself, absolve the subordinate from criminal responsibility. "
https://www.onlinelibrary.iihl.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/AUS-Manual-Law-of-Armed-Conflict.pdf
I feel the top brass who sent BRS in to Afghanistan are hiding something, and BRS was a distraction. Perhaps collusion with the CIA and DOD at that time? If we 'follow the money' we could ask what was Afghanistan notorious for growing there at the time? Did our guys find something ...?
You can suggest whatever you want, your juxtaposition of animals killing each other to survive and humans fighting each other in war puts us on the same level as animals. God says this is because of Satan's influence on nature, not the way he intended it to be. You then justify humans behaving like animals by poo pooing religion and denying the soul. You also slipped in feminist think by wanting to FRAME/CONVICT the commander for the faults of his soldiers even if he had no knowledge of them. The Yamashita standard is rightfully debated as he claimed to have lost communication with his troops. I also take issue with the absurd 'He/she reference to military command structure since w0e-MEN are not required to be registered for the draft and should have NO place in the military, and certainly NOT in the command structure since they are not even held as accountable as adults. I didn't say I 'blame' the troops, I said I do NOT support them IF they attack another country. Again, I did NOT say I 'blame' them, I said I do NOT support bullies who attack other countries. Even if they are doing what they are told. I don't blame them for not having a choice. BUT I don't support them in their efforts is what I said.
Actually, most 'Germans' fought to survive( as other nations did, for 2 Major wars. Also, in the WW2, Mssr Hitler, was 'installed' by Zionist & Industrialists, to lead the German population [especially the robust breeding Stock] into annihilation - finishing off, what the WW1 failed to do - really just the same conflict! Zionist & Nazi Pacts[Including forced 'Jew Control' back to Palestine 1933/34 - Who knew!] Who has the where with all, to stand against the 'State', when that 'State' has the enforceable muscle to conscrpt or imprison the resistors?
'The U.S. military are The Germans' - Actually, post WW2, via Operation Paperclip & Overcast, The actual 'Nazi's' DID contribute to U.S. Systems of Command, all metric hard & soft Science, spying & intelligence services. Even NATO used upper echelon 3rd Reich commanders & operational constructs from Nazi doctrine - Operation Gladio.
For those thinking that ALL 'Nazi's' are the bad guys, & 'we' the good guys, hasn't studied 'Our' offences against the same 'Bad' guys = We ARE the same- generally destructive though - at a much greater rate - During and Post conflict (Folks remember WW2 Battle of the Bulge, & a massacre of U.S. servicemen at Malmedy [84 odd G.Is] by Waffenn SS unit. NO ONE remembers the roadside murder of unarmed German troops - Especially Waffen SS in the 10's of Thousands - Zero charge or trials!. One could extend this to the Million + Dead of captured broad spectrum German POWs, 'Name changed' to DEFs by Eisenhower, to render near Zero provisions of any shelter, sustanance, hydration or Medical supply. Beatings & murder by G.Is an extra bonus from THE 'Liberators of Europe'. RhinesRheinwiesenlagers as some locales. I think these wretches know Exactly the meaning of 'Freedom'!) 'Bad/Good', is Just another illusion for the Convenient mob to argue over! The 'Winners'who write/edit History, conveniently omit their own Sins En-masse against international conventions, as clearly shown still, in current Mid-Eastern & eastern euro conflicts. Decimation of localised breeding stocks, STILL, appears to be a strategic objective for the 'Replacement settlers'.
Last; 'Defence' forces, at least in Western & Israeli forces, appear to be mis branded, seeing as most of their Operations appear to be 'Offence'!
Wellness - John D. 4th Gen OZtopian.
AGREED. You have some sense. This was my whole point. There are NO good guys. Just bad & worse.
IDIOT!
Why has only a hero been targeted? Jealousy and .malice? Or a political scapegoat? Either way, it's no wonder our nation continues its downhill slide.
$300Million, 10Years to make 1 arrest. Political Deflection and Smokescreen is suggested by those numbers. They were ordered to go in politically and to do specific jobs. The authorising and rules of engagement would have been made and set by the fearless political leaders in Canberra. A fall guy is needed to take the heat off the relevant pollies.
The whole show is a stage show - a show by righteous politicians to demonstrate to 'the world' just how squeaky clean and morally pure is Straya. And 'the world' doesn't care one iota.
The side benefit of course - perhaps the real reason - is an issue pumped up to justify bureaucracies squandering squillions and thus be kept in a job.
And all the while, those who actually sent troops to do their politically motivated dirtywork have shed all responsibility to a few chosen scapegoats - the ones they sent to do it all.
A word comes to mind and that is: TRAITORS!
Clearly Straya has forests of traitors - most being indifferent bureaucrats such as the AFP, and where the rest have been voted into positions to abuse not only military personnel, but ALL Australians on a raft of serious issues.
No small wonder Pauline and crew are rating well - but when election time happens along, the stupid majority will yet again vote FOR more of the same.
GREAT credit to Ralph, but methinks you are an island in the wrong pond. Your capacity is needed where you can be most effective, and under Clive that can't happen
Form earlier reports into this witch hunt……those Afghanie “witnesses”, were paid to give their testimony, which they gave via video link? What!???? Who in their right mind would believe one word they had to say? One of the main tenets of Islam is Taqiyyah. Meaning you can lie and deceive to get what you want, especially to the kuffer, the non believer. Three ADF soldiers were killed by Afghani members pretending to be assistants or translators before BRS and his platoon were sent out to find those responsible. Our soldiers discovered how deceitful these people are during the second world war……why would anything change? If you advertise and pay good money you will always find “witnesses” for your cause. Remember all the witnesses that had a story to tell about Cardinal Pell after the advertisement went out, but also remember the highest court in this land found him not guilty. This country sure has a major problem with tall poppies don't we?
Remember....these witnesses were officially the enemy in real life !
I bet they were paid heaps...made rich for life....to turn on Roberts.NO Taliban would refuse that...they are all conniving thieves!
When you say bureaucrats, do you mean the masters?
The wannabes thinking they are important yes the public service
Civil servant is semantically equivalent to civil master.
I think he means bureaurats!
Good one Phillip!
The next time we're asked to send a contingent to an insurgency situation, let's send the AFP instead of SAS.
without prejudice
Opinion
Bloody despicable behaviour by our sock-puppet polity government under the practitioner of Guile Deceit and dissemblance whom I liken to “The Weasel” and bureaucrat thuggery in canberra
100% Senator
We praise the AUSTRALIAN DEFENCE FORCE
We need them now more than ever to protect and defend Australia and Australians from within our country.
Let’s get the ball rolling and arrest and charge each and every politician who is working for unelected officials and working on destroying Australia. Arrest. Charge and lock them up starting from the top.
Especially the head of defence whom offered to forcibly jab all Australians and by that he showed his true colours which are definitely against the constitution and the Australian people
All well said Senator Babet
I totally support Robert Smith there are a lot of cowards and traitors in our midst
Squarely at the feet of the grubs McKenzie and Masters who have chased this story for a decade or more now........................
He responded to the aftermath of three of his fellow soldiers being murdered by an Afghani insurgent who was meant to be a friendly , so why is that not being mentioned .